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I can’t seem to figure out why when I do the substeps the numbering gets messed up. It was not like that before, in the old wiki’s design . Please look at this article: http://www.wikihow.com/Execute-Conversion-of-EDB-to-PST-Using-E-Mail-Converter-Tool Steps 3 and 5 should be the substeps, and I removed a “#” like I did in the old design and the numbering got all messed up… Why? I did it so many times in the old wiki’s design and the numbering was NEVER messed up. It was easy and straight forward. Now I have troubles. Can someone please kindly make step 3 and 5 the substeps? . I don’t want to sound helpless, because I 'm not, but when I know that I did it HUNDRED times in the old design and did it right, and it doesn’t work in the new design it really aggravates. Wish we could get the old design back. LOL Also, I have a question - why none of the images in Steps came out??? Thanks guys.

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Done - Check out my changes here . In the steps section, to make sub-steps, I think you must use #* (hash-tag and asterisk). Just using asterisk is applicable for the tips and warnings section. why none of the images in Steps came out?? Maybe either no such image exists, or gif images can’t be uploaded? (I’m not sure myself)_I don’t know much about that article’s topic, but it looks like an advertisement to me… Can someone please look into it and do the appropriate action?_Hope that helps:slight_smile:~Shina

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Oh @Shinako , you changed around some things… Steps that don’t start with a verb, like on step 7 “You can see converted items on your screen” I usually do as sub-steps. Shina, I tried both - with “#” and without but either way messed up the numbering.:frowning:Thank you for fixing it but I can see you had to change things around in order to get it fixed.:slight_smile:Under old design we did NOT have to do it. I could do as many sub-steps as I felt needed WITHOUT changing things around. <<< This is my point. This new design made it more complicated.

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Yes, that has been taken care of. Check my changes now. The problem could be that the image and the step is written as different steps and that could have messed up the numbering. Yes, it will take some time for everyone to adjust to this new design and surely there are things which one individual does not like about the redesign. But, I’m sure you’ll soon get adjusted to it and keep rocking through your edits!

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I removed the image code because they’ve been deleted (the contributor didn’t provide licensing information, it seems). It seems a bit like advertising to me, rather than a thoroughly complete how-to, but I think the argument could be made either way - especially if somebody wants to add screenshots back in and expand on the steps. It doesn’t look like the original contributor has been back to the site since its creation, so I’m not sure they will, but maybe! @Laura7491 : @Shinako is right that a # will do a step and a #* a substep (you can see Editing Basics for more on that). Image codes need to be included as part of the step, right after the text, rather than on a new line with a # - I think that’s why the formatting was getting mixed up (that and the fact the images didn’t exist anymore anyway!). Also good to know: if you have an extra line in there it will break the numbering, so you have to be sure not to include blank lines between steps. I think maybe you used to use the visual editor, rather than the advanced editor? The visual was nice in layout but very buggy, and lots of folks were having trouble with it, so it wasn’t included in the redesign - the engineers hope to expand with more options like that in the future, though, after the Mediawiki upgrade! Editing in the advanced or guided editors hasn’t really changed in the redesign, but if you switched from visual to this, that might be why you’re having a bit of trouble. Thanks for continuing to ask questions - don’t worry; it’s easy once you make the switch and get the hang of it, and it’s much more reliable than the visual editor! I’m hoping for a reliable version of the visual editing type layout in the future!:slight_smile:Oh, and if you want to change that dialogue that asks you about saving your work when you switch, you can go to http://www.wikihow.com/Special:Preferences - click on Editing and select “Don’t warn me about leaving the editing page.” You’ll still need to save a draft between switches, I think, or you might lose your changes, but it won’t warn you anymore!

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Hi @Anna , like I said before in that article I did try both "#* " and just “#”. By the way - I saw on RC patrol an editor has removed all the “#” and left only “*” to make sub-steps working. I think it’s not really consistent whether to use # or without. I do know about deleting all the spaces between the lines and I did it in the past . Shinako did a good job editing, but I noticed she added the statement, I intended to do as a sub-step, to the step instead … apparently because she STRUGGLED WITH IT TOO. I have a feeling that in this particular case the unlicensed images could be to blame for breaking the steps and messing the numbering. When I apply all my knowledge baggage to make the numbering work it usually works, but not in this case.

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Hmm, it should be consistent in that it’s # for a step, #* for a substep (a bullet-point within a numbered step), and * for a bullet-point in Tips and Warnings. If you see somewhere where it’s not working like that, do please feel free to pass on the article and screenshots and we can file a bug! Thanks! I agree about the images – they were taking up the places of new steps because they had the # in front of them, but they weren’t showing up because the images have been deleted (you can see the code in this previous article version, where the images are in their own steps: http://www.wikihow.com/index.php?title=Execute-Conversion-of-EDB-to-PST-Using-E-Mail-Converter-Tool&action=edit&oldid=11645847 ). Without those image codes in there, it’s looking good! Thanks, Laura!

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Hi @Anna , you are welcome. I will be watching closely about the “#*” thingy. Will let you know when I see those.:slight_smile:Hmmm… even if the images did not have the # in front of them but they were deleted it could be a reason for messing up the numbering, ah?? I usually delete # when I see it before the image. It doesn’t belong there anyway. Makes me wonder - is that a bug, or the article’s author puts them in being unaware???

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Thanks! Yea - true. If nothing else, putting an image in its own step will just spread things out weirdly (i.e. words for the first action are in step 1, then the picture is alone in step 2, etc - instead of matching them up), and it can break the numbering order if there are extra spaces, or if the images are deleted and therefore won’t show. It looks from the original author’s contributions that it’s all they’ve done, so I’m guessing they just didn’t really take the time to learn the wikitext - no harm done, but I’m glad you were there to catch the formatting issues! Thank you!

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Substeps have always been formed as “#*” and not as either “*” or the like, as you specified at top of this discussion.

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@Anna , you are welcome, and thank YOU - I learn a lot about things from participating in this Forum.:slight_smile: @Byankno1 , I can’t exactly remember “where” I saw the “#” were removed from sub-steps. Perhaps they were Tips. I thought they were on Steps. Anyway, if I ever see the “#” removed from sub-steps and only kept “*” on Steps I will take a pic or make a video, and post here.:slight_smile:

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I am back … @Anna and @Byankno1 … I was not dreaming when I said that the “#” was omitted when formatting the sub-steps punctuation in Steps.:slight_smile:There is no consistency… I saw it again, a few minutes ago when doing RC patrol… Please take a look at this article’s history: http://www.wikihow.com/index.php?title=Clear-Your-Browser’s-Cache&action=history I was doing a Patrol Recent Changes and I noticed that Hailey Girges removed the “#” from sub-steps that were on the old revision on quite a few sub-steps in Steps (NOT TIPS!). I have not changed anything, or rolled back because the sub-steps looked fine in the last revision.

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Heya, I see where Hailey removed them - but that change did disrupt the steps. * will make a bullet, but it will also break the order of the steps, whereas #* will make a substep bullet (a bullet within a step) that keeps the numbering consistent (as it did before the redesign, too). To illustrate what I mean, here’s a comparison: Hailey’s version is on the left, with # then * then #, and the current version is on the right, with #, #* and #: http://screencast.com/t/xMxUEhpV So #* is the way to make a substep within a numbered step, whereas * is the way to make an independent bulletpoint (not part of a step - which is better in Tips, Warnings, etc). Does that make sense? I hope it helps!

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Ohhh… so sorry. @Anna , I was so focused on sub-steps punctuation that I did not pay attention on numbering being messed up.:frowning:Of course, it makes sense… I saw your image here. Thank you!! My bad.:frowning:

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No prob, Laura! Happy to help - just glad it’s not a bug:slight_smile::slight_smile: