Happy Monday, everyone! Hopefully everyone’s doing well and staying safe in these weird times.

As of late, the admin team has been reviewing a lot of flags on the forums where people are sharing information that could potentially put themselves or others in danger. Making friends on wikiHow is a great thing - I and many other wikiHowians have met some incredible people through here, and I’ll freely admit that I talk to several offsite regularly. But the reality is that not everyone on wikiHow is someone you want to talk to offsite; there can be predatory (or even just weird or annoying) people on wikiHow too, and they’re not always easy to recognize. Someone who wants to take advantage of you can be surprisingly good at hiding their intent.

While we will do whatever we can to protect users from harassment or predatory people who might join wikiHow, I want to be extremely clear that as soon as it leaves wikiHow, our hands are tied.We can block people on wikiHow and the forums, we can disable a blocked user’s emailing privileges, and we can advise you to block people or remove them from groups, but we can’t stop them from trying to contact you offsite or doing things like trying to find where you live or where you go to school. The forums are public; anyone can see posts here, even without a wikiHow account. For this reason, you’re strongly advised to protect your privacy and not open up ways for people to look you up or contact you without your explicit permission - which includes not posting certain things on the forums.

So what kind of things are unsafe to post publicly? Here’s a short, but by no means complete, list of what not to post:

  • Invites to any Google groups (Google Meets, Google Classroom, etc.)
  • Invites or usernames for group chats or voice/video calling services (like Discord, Zoom, or Google Meets)
  • Email addresses, including school email addresses
  • Phone numbers
  • Social media usernames, or links to your profiles
  • Any information that could be used to identify you (like your full name, age, where you live, or where you go to school)
  • Photos of yourself

If we come across any of these things in your posts, an administrator will edit or delete the post in order to protect your safety and the safety of others. (Non-administrators, if you come across these posts, please flag them so we can review them.)

But what if you’ve met someone on wikiHow and you want to talk with them offsite? We’re not stopping you - a lot of us have done it. While you should always take precautions to keep yourself safe, here’s what you can do if you want to talk to someone off of wikiHow, and some tips to protect yourself:

  • Email them through the wikiHow system. Go to their User page on the main site and click the button that says “Email [Username]” in their profilebox. If they have an email connected to their wikiHow account, you’ll be able to send them an email through the wikiHow system. (If they don’t, don’t give them personal information or another way to contact you - there’s very little reason for someone to not have an email address.)
  • Be mindful of what information you share. Just because someone says they’re 14 doesn’t mean they actually are, and just because someone mentions living in the same state as you doesn’t mean you should ask what town they live in or tell them where you live. Don’t trust someone the second they share something about themselves!
  • Only share group invites or social media through email, and only share them with those you trust. This means that only the people you want to talk to will have easy access to these things, and that random people on the forums or the main site can’t easily find them.
  • Be extremely careful if you choose to share photos of yourself or video call with someone. People can save your photos or take screenshots of your video feed, and they may share them without your consent. (And remember, catfishing exists! If someone sends you a picture and says it’s of themselves, but you aren’t sure it’s legitimate, try doing a reverse image search to see if the photo comes up anywhere else.)
  • It’s best to only meet up with wikiHowians you’ve already met in person at official wikiHow meetups. If you haven’t met someone in person already, but really want to, you should meet them in a public place with a trusted family member or friend. (Although with COVID going on, you might be better off waiting until an official meetup!)
  • If you’re under 18, and your parents or guardians aren’t abusive or incredibly overprotective, talk to them about your wikiHow friends. Yes, sometimes they don’t get it and can be weird about internet friends - a lot of adults don’t understand. But if something happens - if someone is making you uncomfortable, or they start emailing you or messaging you constantly on social media and won’t back off, or things like that - it will be easier to ask them for help than if you have to spend an hour explaining to them what wikiHow is. (If you think your parents will react abusively, you don’t have to tell them, but hopefully your parents have good intentions and want to help you stay safe.)

If you have any questions, are worried that someone is sharing too much personal information, or feel unsafe because someone on the site is bothering you, please never be afraid to ask the admin team for help. You can flag posts on the forums, report on the ANB, or reach out to an admin directly via email or Talk page. We’re always happy to help keep this community safe:slight_smile:

tl;dr: While making friends on wikiHow is great, the forums are public and anyone can view posts on them. Posts with any identifying information or invites to groups will be removed for user safety. Please take steps to keep yourself safe!

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Awesome, and good to know!

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Yes! My friend is going to make an account tonight (or so she says) so I told her about internet safety.Whoops, I clicked reply to you

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Thanks for posting this!:slight_smile:

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@anon74718567 I saw someone deleted my Google Classroom post, but I asked Jayne about it earlier on, and she said it was okay for me to do that…? I could’ve misunderstood, so I’ll ping her to verify. @JayneG ?

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The issue isn’t making groups or classes or the like - anyone’s more than welcome to join a group with wikiHowians in it as long the codes are distributed privately and as long as they know it’s safe. (Heck, I’m in a group chat with several wikiHowians offsite myself.) The issue is that the invites or codes to these things are being posted publicly on the forums, and anyone can access the forums even without an account. I don’t want to scare anyone, but it’s entirely possible for predators to join wikiHow - it has happened before, and if these invites are on the forums, it’s easy for these people to join and we may not have an easy way to get them out.

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Hey. I deleted several of those posts and I explained why on the actual if wH was a school thread. Alex summarized it nicely for me. Sharing public meeting codes like that is reallllllllly unsafe. As anyone can access that with or without an account. Predators, trolls, and weirdos could join easily. It’s generally advised not to meet offsite but if you do just share codes privately and try to be as safe as possible.:slight_smile:

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Well said Alex. I think your post strikes the perfect balance between informative and cautionary. I’ve been lucky enough to have never had any upsetting interactions on or through wikiHow in six years - although, after the virtual meeting up, when anchovies were discussed within earshot of my Alexa device, an advert for anchovies popped on my Facebook feed, which was slightly upsetting! Seriously though, everyone should be mindful of what they share and be confident about saying, “I don’t share that information with people in don’t know IRL” if they need to. Genuine people won’t press you to disclose information and won’t think you’re being rude if you don’t answer their questions. Also, the advice here is very relevant to any other on line communities anyone is part of.

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Well said and really great points from Alex.

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@HelperOnWikihow you’re definitely welcome to create the classroom, but it is definitely best to share it privately:slight_smile:

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Can I make a chat thread to share some social media?

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You’ll have the answer to that if you read the first post. lol

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then how do we contact each other if we cant share emails T-T and on social media. we don’t want everything to be monitored on wikiHow T-T

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As mentioned in the first post, you can email people through the wikiHow system. If they have an email address linked to their account in their preferences, it will work just fine:slight_smile:

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this is just oof. I mean it said info that could protect you. How can sharing emails like harm you? I mean they don’t have the password, etc. Welp gotta follow the rules:roll_eyes::kissing::slightly_smiling_face:and besides the person can’t even email u with your school email because it won’t work even if you are in their county. I tried it so many times it wont work welp oof

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They can use it to repeatedly contact you even after you tell them to stop. To send you harmful or inappropriate things, like computer viruses or pictures of themselves naked. To sign you up for inappropriate websites that you then can’t deactivate because you don’t know the password. Some people who are really good with technology can manage to crack your password, or find any other accounts that are linked to the email address you sent. And if you’re sharing your school email, that’s one Google search to find out what school district you attend, and could potentially reveal your name as well.

Bottom line: just do not share this information at all. You don’t know what people are capable of doing and there are some really messed up people online. Please trust me on this. You do not want to risk having these kinds of people on your tail.

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@anon74718567 is right. Do not share your contact information with people you met on the internet!

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kk and maybe the “messed up people” just have a gift and talent. Welp thank you for your cooperating,

wait then how come Feli put his email on his talk page? and How come now I can only reply messages in 4 mins?

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I’ll Talk page you, since this isn’t really the place to debate these things:slight_smile:

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I wholeheartedly agree that sharing your email isn’t a good idea, and sharing your school email is a really bad idea. But if you attach an email to your wikiHow account, if you can, I’d recommend making a junk (or temporary) email that you can delete if all else fails and not much would be lost because of it.

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