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Lately there are a lot of people who either don’t get how patrolling works or are just trolls, what about if we could block them from patrolling only instead of completely blocking them? It would give them some time off thinking and they could learn the rope and it would be easier for the rest of the people patrolling. Not to mention it would save a lot of time for other stuff to do around the site. What do you guys think?

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I *love* this idea. Some users have a good grip on basic editing but need the patrolling how-to (no pun intended). (Actually, make it intentional.) They can still contribute as a regular user (during their block) and help out with editing while they learn the ropes to patrolling. This is excellent.

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Even better: ***FOR NEWBIES***The admin could set an amount of patrols 30-100, then a time (2 hours to 1 week) so if someone marks loads of vandalism patrolled without rolling it back, the admin can set a time so you can patrol a certain amount of edits in a certain amount of time for a certain amount of days (example: 64 patrols in a day for 5 days) ***FOR PEOPLE 1 MONTH OR OLDER***

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Yes. Yes! YES! This idea is pretty good. Perhaps there should be blocks for each kind of editing? Well, let’s say there’s a new user that is creating several new Club Penguin articles, and let’s say that each article is fairly low-quality, causing problems for people working on the CP project. This user could be given a warning, and then some sort of article creation block…during that time, they can learn from Rising Stars as to what a good new article is. Anyway, that’s completely different, so… I support this idea of patrol block wholeheartedly.

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Yes yes! They would still be able to participate in everything else though. We should have a block for editing and writing articles too. We should also have a forums block and only use our main block when we absolutely need to.

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While we don’t have this sort of facility (is it even possible in Mediawiki?), we can do short term x hour blocks with a note left explaining why.

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thumbs up

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@Davecrosby - yes but the idea is like others say that they don’t get blocked on the entire site they just get blocked from patrolling so they can still edit around the site, it would encourage people to learn on how to patrol better and the message wouldn’t come over so harsh:slight_smile:And I do think it’s possible via userrights -if admins had the power to remove someone from the userrights patrol ( only that one) it would be a lot easier. CC to @JackHerrick @Krystle

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it’s possible to be done via Special:Userrights but there’d have to be a group there to begin with – e.g currently all users are given patrol rights, and there’s no way to remove the ‘user’ group from a user. Unless a patrol user group is given by default (e.g on account creation), I don’t think it’d be possible to allow all users to use RC Patrol =)

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I totally support this idea! Every once in a while I come across an article that has obviously been vandalized, and I wonder how on Earth this got by the patrollers. I think that for some people, the number of patrols is superior to the quality of the patrols they do, so they’ll just press the “Mark as Patrolled” button over and over again. I think that a patrolling block would be a great idea.

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This is a good idea:slight_smile:It’s something I’ve thought about too because I do a lot of patrolling coaching. I’m not sure if we need this just yet but in the future, when the RC tests come out (these are “pop quizzes” that you get as you are patrolling, mixed in with regular edits), if someone does really bad on these tests we will restrict how much patrolling they can do so they don’t do (worst case scenario) 1000+ bad patrols. In practice, though, it has actually been very rare that we have needed to block someone in order to get them to stop patrolling. I have only had to do this once (and that was recently) out of the 100 or so people I have coached on their patrolling. Usually if I offer coaching, I ask them to do only 30 patrols, then I review their patrols, offer any feedback, and tell them how many more patrols they can do next…until I feel comfortable with their patrolling skills. 99% of people are totally fine with this, and only do as many patrols as I’ve asked them to do. Like I said, it is rare that someone totally ignores my requests and patrols more than I asked. If you find a bad edit that was marked as patrolled, here is how you can check to see who patrolled it: Go to the patrol log and type in the title of the article. You will see a list of people who have patrolled changes to that page. Click on the link that looks like “r6565846” to see the edit that was patrolled. When you know who the patroller was, go ahead and check more of that person’s patrols, as described here: http://www.wikihow.com/Patrol-Patrollers-on-wikiHow Let me know if you come across someone who has done a lot of bad patrolling, because I can coach them and undo their patrols:slight_smile: