Can I bring up a more serious discussion about our Project and Team pages, I think we need to have a more serious talk about designing them - for those designers out there?

While I do believe it’s fine to have pages designed according to a project designer’s feelings, there are many project pages here that I don’t believe should be badly designed. The pages have text that is very hard to read, and when you compile that with a heavily colored background with very dark colors and font colors that are too light (or that make it hard to read), I do feel that we should take some action to remove bad (unjiving) colors and text styles which are hard to read. This should have gone along the same lines as our User_talk Policies in terms of styling them.

I don’t mind standard text, but backgrounds should all be either the standard background color used on all wikiHow pages (white), or some just off-white shades with black or close text colorings.

If a designer wants to add pictures, I say “let them”, but there should be some rules/policy that prevents bad situations that have come into our Project and Team pages that make them hard to read because they aren’t suitable for the trained eye who’s used to seeing other colors the same from other pages brought over to these pages.

(I’m holding off on providing link these pages, because I"m in the midst of several different projects, and I need more time to compile it, as examples need to be provided to be understood what is going on.)

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I don’t want to dig too much into this at this very time, and I think there are some lighter actions to take. Most of these are all black and (the keyword) inactive (marked with the historicalProject template) and even then it’s easy to get around while waiting.

Just a few include https://www.wikihow.com/wikiHow:Beat-the-Blues-Project , https://www.wikihow.com/wikiHow:HipHop-Project …and a few more at select locations.

Rare exceptions of bad colorings on slightly active without the template include https://www.wikihow.com/wikiHow:Dance-Project and https://www.wikihow.com/wikiHow:Music-Project … but I guess that’s the one-in-a-million scenario.

@JayneG

Tagging those who liked the original discussion post: @RubyRoseRain

The Project pages with all black backgrounds with all white or grey text were the hardest to read. Most have text that is styled in kiddish Comic Sans - that - while not too understandable - is just enough to mention it here is something that shouldn’t be used here.

There are others as to other colors. If a border is used, there only be one border. One project page (I didn’t note it on my offline paper) had three borders wrapped around the page, and made for one mess. I just went into these projects to cleanup for old project names - and noted some of these oddballs. I will get back to these someday - maybe after I create the UIB subpages to wikiHow:Templates I talked about in another discussion unrelated to this one.

About a half hour ago, i ended up removing the black background to project pages and changed white text to standard default colors while leaving borders alone to primarily the 4 project pages that exhibited these features and the most troubling ones i was encountering. I marked these as “readability” but sometimes elaborated more in the edit summary at first - always mentioning “readability” in the summary.