Hey wikiHowians, I’m a product manager at wikiHow, and I’d like to get your thoughts on some potential updates we’re considering.

We’ve noticed that some of our most successful content is related to relationships (romantic relationships, friendships, family, etc.), and these articles have helped a lot of people. We’d like to see how we can reach more people with these articles, and I’d love to get some thoughts on this from you all.

One of the challenges we are facing is that, even though our relationships articles are really helpful, wikiHow isn’t necessarily what most people think of when they think about a place to go to for relationship advice. To that point, we’re considering making a new section of our site that is specifically branded for relationships. This would enable us to more clearly signal to our readers that they’ve come to the right place to get help with their specific relationship challenges.

That being said, I have a few questions for you all. In general, do you have any strong thoughts or opinions on how we might do a better job of getting our relationships articles to those who can benefit from them? Is there anything you’d like to see more of in the relationships space in general? And, more specifically, how would you feel about having a separate section of the site that is specifically branded for relationships?

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for all that you do to improve wikiHow!

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Maybe there could be something like a wikiHow.date site (wikihow.love and .dating are apparently taken)? Similar to wikihow.pet. Or something like the High School Hacks page or the Winter Survival Guide ? I don’t know how good those suggestions might be though. Just something that I thought about.

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Hey Kevin – good to meet you! I was asking Jayne when we get to corrupt the new staff member, so I guess that answers that:slight_smile:

I did have some thoughts, but the thing is, my thoughts are related to articles that A) may not be “relationship” topics per se (like transgender topics, since the LGBT category is under Relationships), and/or B) overlap with topics that Google has historically given us trouble for, like some of the articles about autism and dating. So I guess I’m countering your questions with my own question: what exactly qualifies as a “relationship” article beyond “dating, friends, and family,” so we know what’s being considered in this discussion?

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Wow, interesting! Those pages seem very neat and I never knew about them before!

Having something like the pages R2 mentioned for relationships would be pretty helpful, in my opinion. However, I think that if the goal is to signal to readers that they’re in the right place for relationship advice, maybe just making a new section wouldn’t be enough? I mean, even I didn’t know about the pages R2 mentioned until now, and I only knew about wikiHow “subsites” until I joined, so readers probably wouldn’t be aware of the new relationship section either.

Maybe something could be added to relationship articles to point readers to the new section (similar to how articles with “PDF” in them had the link to the PDF Toolkit)? Or maybe some pop-up, a new part on the main page, a link to the new section on the relationships category and subcategories, etc.? Just something to think about (I’m sure making readers aware of the new section has already been brought up internally, but just adding to that):slight_smile:.

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Just a few quick questions - would this appear as a “subdomain” site, like the .pet or .tech pages? Have those been performing well when it comes to readership? If this does become a subdomain, I also find it worth mentioning that I’m unsure of how to access any of the subdomains from the main site itself; would there be clearer access points set up to navigate readers to this domain?

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I definitely think one thing that could be helpful if this will be a subdomain is (similar to what others have said) having clearer ways to access the wikiHow subdomains in general. Someone new to wikiHow might not even know these exist, and it took me a while to learn what all of the subdomains were, because they aren’t that easily accessible.Also if this will be a subdomain, it might be good to have it structured similar to wikiHow.pet, in the sense that all the categories covered are made clear right on the homepage. Even if this isn’t a subdomain, I think structuring it similar to how the wikiHow.pet homepage is structured now would be beneficial—I find it easy to navigate through the different categories and articles.

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This isn’t really an answer to any of the initial questions, but I had a thought on this thread specifically that I’d like to mention, if that’s okay. It’s not meant to be criticism, to be clear – just some possible food for thought:slight_smile:

I wonder if something that might help, in terms of getting more responses from volunteers, is to offer some kind of hands-on way to offer input. Asking for volunteer thoughts and preferences is a great first step, but questions like “How would you feel about this?” or “What do you want to see more of with XYZ?” can be abstract or context-dependent, so they’re not always easy to answer (and I also wonder if it might inadvertently leave out volunteers who have a harder time articulating their thoughts). If there was a clear way to contribute tangible suggestions somehow, like specific articles to feature or picking between designs, it opens the door to feedback from those who want to contribute less personal thoughts or are having trouble explaining what they’re thinking – and at least for me personally, I also like being able to see that I contributed something, which isn’t really possible with opinions!

I don’t have any specific ideas for something hands-on we can do, since there’s admittedly not a whole lot of detail for us to work with, but I looked back at the thread where we built the Teen Toolkit , and some of the feedback and suggestions allowed people to bounce ideas off each other or suggest specific articles or topic areas to feature in the toolkit. It also gave Natalie a really great chance to engage with us over it and ask us our opinions on specific things that came up. I’d really love to see that kind of collaboration on something like this. Like I said, though, just some food for thought:slight_smile:

I’m done derailing for now, carry on

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Thank you for your responses so far, and it’s great to meet you all. I see some good points about subdomains, and we have thought about using one for this. However (as HelperOnWikihow and XxVxX point out), it isn’t super clear to a new reader how to get to one of our subdomains. It would likely make it harder to find these articles in a subdomain, so I think we’ll be keeping them on the main site.

The wikihow.pet page does have a clear category section at the bottom though, and I am thinking about better ways we could organize or present our relationship content to steer readers toward the advice they’re looking for.

Also, Galactic_Radiance makes a great point about needing to define what qualifies as a “relationship” article. I actually expect this definition to change over time as we hone in on how be can best resonate with our readers. Right now I’d consider dating, friends, family, long-term committed relationships, self development (in the context of relationships), and any content related to sex & intimacy to fall into this group. But, to be clear, while we don’t yet know what the exact focus of this area of the site will be, our intention is to be inclusive (both in general and in regards to the LGBTQ+ sub-category).

I also appreciate the point about getting more specific with feedback requests. I understand that the fairly broad questions in my original post are inherently difficult to answer. To be honest though, that’s part of the point. Many of you have been part of the wikiHow community for a very long time, and it’s both valuable and interesting for me to see what comes up for you before I start influencing you with my own thoughts on possible solutions.

That being said, I’ll take a look at the linked thread, and I’m certainly open to getting more specific and detailed as we start to better define what we want to do.

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Hello Kevin,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us regarding this project. Many people, when they have relationship issues like making a good impression on your crush, they look up online for tips. Some search for more detailed answers. They also go for agony aunt columns. When such a column answers their questions, they feel better empowered. And also know that it has to come from within.

Even as I wrote blog articles about life in general, I think they liked the part when I encouraged them by stating their possible strengths and giving them a realistic picture of what could possibly happen and go wrong. People, at times want the bare truth and some good ol moral support, something to lift them up for real, instead of sharing points with expert tips.

I hope you make way for such thoughts to reflect in our articles. To answer your questions, advertisements on television like even google makes, would definitely make new readers come to wikiHow. A tagline would make it stay on their mind. Like, 'Don’t fret, wikiHow it! And nudge old readers come back to see what’s new. A section for relationship can really stir their interests.:slight_smile:

I think the language and interactive approach seen in some articles of late can create a huge boost in terms of engaging readers to our articles. The key is in the language. Make it empathetic and see various angles of the title/ issue and discuss practically and realistically. Include images of senior citizens also because it might benefit.

Go wikiHow for making every effort in creating a better audience. Happy weekend and festive season.:slight_smile:

P.S. May be there can be a promotion starting with, Sort your relationship problems this festive season.:santa:t3:

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I’m not exactly sure what a separate section of the site would mean, but for the purposes of these tips, I’m assuming that by a separate section of the site you are referring to a special page(s) with links to relationship pages, and/or a different design for relationship articles. Now, I’m no web designer by any stretch of the imagination, so I’m not good at this design stuff, but maybe you could get some useful ideas out of these.

For the potential home page of this section, you could do something like taking the relations ships category, and then editing it with headers for different sections and some extra features. One section could be for “dating”, and “friends”, “love”, and “relationship issues”. You could also have a separate section or page for LGBTQ+ topics.

I’ve also noticed that a lot of new articles about dating someone based on their astrology sign. I think that maybe you could create a separate page and design it like the high school hacks page, but each button is for an astrology sign.

Also, for new features, you could create a page that shows a bunch of Community Q&A questions and answers that is based on the new Community Q&A pages, and let people view some of the most helpful answers (which you could determine based on the helpful/unhelpful votes on the answers). And you could add the search feature that is “coming soon” so that readers could quickly search to see if they can find their question.

Also, you could add links to expert pages (like this one for Nejla Renee ), but the links would go to the relationship experts instead. And those pages already have the co-authored pages listed on them, so not much additional work would be needed.

Another idea is to gather the “best relationship articles” to list on the page. There are a few ways that you can determine the “best articles”. You could display expert-co authored articles, or you could determine it based on article reviews, or by article helpfulness ratings, or, once implemented, you can see how many readers add the article to their collection. Or you could do a combination of any or all of the above.

For a different article design, you could modify the design so that on list articles based on dating or love, the number for each point could have a heart around it. And/or the stars for the article ratings could be changed to hearts instead. Obviously this would not be good for articles about family or friends, so that would have to be taken into account. These are kind of gimmicky, but it’s something that I thought about. Also, if something like this is implemented, I think that it should be done based on the category the article is in, and it does not have to be enabled via a back-end tool, since that would make it easier for contributors to do this.

Anyways, these are just some random ideas that I came up with. Some of the ideas are probably not very good by themselves, and they might not be that compatible with each other, but they could give you some ideas.

If I think of anything else before Monday I’ll edit this comment to add them.

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VY, I like the points that you make about needing our articles to be empathetic and to lift people up. I think it’s important that we are able to be immediately helpful and useful to our readers. It’s great to have articles with tips about having healthy relationships or improving your communication with your partner (and these are important topics), but it does seem that people tend to come to us for specific ‘urgent’ problems (like wanting to know how to ask someone out).

Perhaps we can attract more readers by providing solutions to their immediate relationship problems but then also making it clear that we can guide them as their relationships grow and change over time.

R2_d2000, I’m on exactly the same wavelength as you. By using a new design for our relationship articles, we can indicate that we’re serious about providing valuable relationship advice to our readers. Elevating the Q&A section is also an interesting idea. I’m wondering if it can be helpful to show more ‘social proof’. I know that I’m more likely to trust an article I find on the internet if I see other people engaging with it and providing their own experiences.

I’m curious to know - when you find a relationship-focused article (on wikiHow or anywhere else on the internet), how do you decide if you want to read it or not? How do you decide if you believe the advice? And what would make you want to get more relationship advice from the same source?

This is a super interesting set of challenges, and I really appreciate the input you all have offered so far!

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(Working on another reply to you, Kevin, but ironically enough I’m having trouble articulating my thoughts, so take this first!)

If I can throw in my two cents on this one, it's all under the cut.
  • I really want content I can’t find somewhere else. Generic advice just does not work for me, because I can find that in any given advice book or article, and as a queer disabled person it’s also often not relevant to my specific situation. What I look for is content that’s unique either in the topic area, or in what it teaches me.
    • An example that actually involves wikiHow: I’m disabled and don’t intuitively pick up on social cues, but I wasn’t diagnosed until my teens, so before then I wasn’t looking for disability-specific resources. When I was 12 and got a crush, everything I read about crushes would say “if someone has a crush on you, they’ll look at/talk to/touch you a lot,” but I knew friends could do that too, and the lack of nuance was frustrating because I couldn’t tell the difference! When I came across our article on how to tell if a guy likes you ( which, at that time, resembled this ), I was actually blown away because a lot of this stuff, particularly when it came to body language, was not mentioned in these guides – so not only did I learn signals that were unique to crushes, I also learned that body language is a huge part of how we communicate, when before I legitimately didn’t even notice it. That spurred me to start learning about body language, and when wikiHow came up on the subject, I trusted it because it had already taught me a lot more than I expected it to. (To this day, I credit wikiHow with teaching me social skills.)
  • I usually avoid clickbait titles. Obvious clickbait (e.g. “12 Scientifically-Proven Ways to Start a Conversation”) makes me think the source is low-quality; typically either the content itself is not interesting or accurate, or I can find the exact same information across two or three other pages on the front page of Google. The only clickbait I would go for would be something where the end goal is both interesting and clearly laid out, like “Trying to revive the conversation? Here’s how to tell them about that one time wikiHow retweeted you,” or really bizarre, like, “12 Scientifically-Proven Ways to Start a Conversation About Undead Lime Lollipop Eels” (and in that case, the content had better measure up!).
  • Some amount of serious authoritativeness is really, really crucial. Casual writing is fine, but if it’s too peppy or slangy, I start feeling like I’m being talked down to or like the writer doesn’t seem to remember there’s an actual person looking for advice. (And honestly, it can feel really forced and unnatural.)
    • For instance, if I was a preteen or teenager looking for advice on handling a fight with a crush:
      • “Fighting with your crush can be scary or even devastating; you might be worried that they’ll never like you now, or that you’ve ruined your friendship” would sound more realistic to me as a preteen or teenager. It’s empathetic yet authoritative and would make me feel like I’m talking to a trusted mentor or parental figure who’s been there, done that, and can tell me exactly what to do.
      • “Fighting with your crush just plain sucks,” could go either way depending on the follow-up, but I’d be apprehensive, because in that situation I need reassurance and/or empathy. If it followed with the “wrong” sentence, it risks being completely invalidating, and could lead me to click off.
      • “Fighting with your crush is literally the worst” would always sound fake to me, even at a younger age. I definitely say “that’s literally the worst” in spoken conversation, but it’s not language I’d use with anyone other than peers, and it sounds like a grown-up trying to be Hip With The Kids™.
    • Even now, in my early 20s, I really appreciate an air of authority in the writing because I’m both disabled and new to a lot of stuff in the relationship world. I don’t necessarily need the same amount of reassurance, but overly peppy or cheerful language (even on the more lighthearted topics) ends up driving me off because I feel like my question isn’t being taken seriously. And on the serious or painful stuff, empathy works wonders for feeling understood – which means I’m more likely to take it seriously because the writer probably knows what they’re talking about.
      • It’s not the strongest example of specificity, but I’m always struck by the empathy and realness on one step in Know When to Break Up : “ This is a hard one. You may have really loved each other when you were in high school or college, but now you find that you’re just completely different people with different friends, dreams, and interests. If you find that the only thing you have in common is your shared history, and that it isn’t enough, then it may be time to move on. This is one of the hardest reasons for a break-up, because it isn’t anyone’s fault, and you both must still have a lot of affection for each other, but that doesn’t mean you should stay together if it’s not right for the people you are today. ” (It acknowledges how real the feelings were and that you still care about them, while still acknowledging that things have changed – and that it’s painful, particularly because it’s nobody’s fault.)
  • When I’m looking for further advice, I tend to judge based on two things: one, was the advice on this page comprehensive and helpful, and two, do they have content that’s either immediately relevant to the article in question or that piques my interest in general? (What’s interesting depends on the topic area and its relevancy to me, but I can go digging for some examples from competitor sites or my college research projects, when it’s not 4 AM that is.)

And there’s definitely more stuff I could touch on with those questions, but… 4 AM and I’ve been trying to write this darn thing for the last four hours, because Brain Lag won’t stop dragging it out further and further, and I need to force myself to stop for right now.:slight_smile:

“Undead lime lollipop eels” sounds like the name of a pop-punk high school garage band, honestly…

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Thanks for reading and responding, Kevin. We hope you are enjoying working at wikiHow.:slight_smile:

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For me, there are a few things I look for in relationship-focused (or any) articles:

  • Titles that don’t appear like they’re clickbait (I’m more likely to read an article with a simple title that starts with "How to…” instead of “Learn How to Go on a Date With This Amazing Advice You Won’t Find Anywhere Else!”.

  • Articles that don’t just have walls of text. If I’m looking for relationship advice, I don’t want to look for it within large walls of text. Therefore, I tend to gravitate towards articles with images.

  • Articles with reputable sources. Knowing that someone with expertise in the field reviewed the article helps me to know I’m reading helpful, accurate advice.

  • Articles that have been updated/written relatively recently. I’ve always felt that an article written 10 years ago on any topic—relationships included—that hasn’t ever been updated probably won’t be as accurate as an article written or updated a week ago.

  • As far as what would make me want to get more relationship advice from a website, I would say sites that are known for doing all of these things would be ones that I’d return to.

wikiHow does an excellent job with all of these things already—but these are some of the things that I typically look for.

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Ooh! Can I tack onto this? I really prefer when articles don’t name specific social media sites because it can become outdated so fast. (I had to tweak one of the crush articles within the last two years because it said not to tell your crush you like them over Facebook… I’m pretty sure the audience of that topic wouldn’t use Facebook except out of necessity, unless we count Instagram as Facebook.)

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Have I spent about a week working on this post at this point? Yep, because I will inevitably have a Wall of Thoughts when someone asks for input. Sorry, Kevin… pretty much anyone on wikiHow, volunteer or staff, can tell you that this is a habit of mine.:slight_smile:


Wait… so we legitimately get to corrupt you? Awesome!

Thanks for the clarification on the transgender topics (and the subdomains too, for that matter) – I really appreciate that! It’s much easier to outline my thoughts knowing what this might entail. And I love hearing that the intention is to be inclusive; a lot of sites still aren’t making an effort with that, so it really means a lot that we are.:slight_smile:

Since you were asking about getting the articles out to more people, what we specifically want to see in the relationship content, and what makes us trust the source – and because I’ve spent most of my time here focused on writing content – I’m going to focus my answers around what I want to see in terms of content , rather than visual aesthetics, because the content is what drives the site. Since this is a very, very long wall of thoughts, I’m putting them under their own individual section:

Diversity that's "just there"

In general, I’d really like to see diversity. Like I mentioned in my previous post, I’m queer and disabled, and we have readers and editors of color or different financial backgrounds. There has been a lot of improvement on the discussion of sexuality, and to a lesser extent gender identity, but our relationship content doesn’t tend to factor in anything else unless that “anything else” is specifically named in the title. And while I know it’s not possible to be 100% inclusive in everything, sometimes I wish we had more examples/scripts, images, and so forth where diversity just exists – it can help to have “cookie-cutter” scripts that apply to anyone, for instance, but it’s also okay to acknowledge differences once in awhile – it sometimes just takes a brief acknowledgement of human diversity to make someone feel seen.

  • As an example, sometimes relationship articles will use a random hobby, pop-culture topic, or trait in their scripts (like “You like Fall Out Boy, too?”). It’d be nice to see example scripts like, “You’ve been watching Black-ish, right? How far along are you?” or, “There’s nothing wrong with being a short guy. Look at Danny DeVito.”
  • @MissLunaRose deserves a shoutout here for how diverse her artwork is, and she’s also written scripts on generic relationship articles where someone nonchalantly mentions queer relationships, autism, ADHD, blindness, use of canes/wheelchairs, and more. Unfortunately I can’t remember any specific examples off the top of my head, but it always makes me really happy whenever I stumble across those, because it’s not something I see elsewhere.

More content about relationships with people who are “different”

Something I really wish there was more of, and that I was hoping to do a little bit of work on before the GoogleMonster took this topic area away from us, is relationship content (familial, platonic, or otherwise) with people who are “different” somehow. My particular focus is neurodiversity (ADHD, NVLD, autism, etc.), but it can also apply to physical disability, queer identity, race, or even stuff like shyness, social awkwardness, high sensitivity, or other personality traits. In general, people tend to treat me differently based on my queer and disability status, and even when it’s well-intentioned, it’s very othering and weird; I think part of this comes down to there not being a lot of resources on interacting with someone outside of your “group.” And as someone who can pass for a “quirky” neurotypical, I’ve had a lot of strained relationships and falling-outs with people because of my disabilities, and I really wish I and others had known that even if what I did was hurtful, that didn’t mean I was being deliberately malicious. (On the flip side, it can also help with distinguishing “it’s something you can’t help” from “it’s something you can help but don’t have the ability/skills to manage right now” from “you’re being a jerk and using XYZ as an excuse.”)

Caveat: having WRM work on these can be hit-or-miss because it’s not a guarantee that a given editor will have direct knowledge or experience with something. This can result in errors that straddle the line of being well-meaning, but inaccurate or offensive. It would be really critical to get feedback from people who really know the topic area well, and preferably have direct experience (and not just review from credentialed experts). I know the content team makes sure to check these things over, but if they’re not familiar with a topic either, it’s possible for things to slip through.


More empathy

I touched on this in my last post, but wanted to expand on it. We’re generally fairly good about empathy, but there’s some content where it feels like we’ve missed the mark and wouldn’t meet the reader where they’re at. This kind of spurns off into multiple “branches,” though, so bear with me:

  • We need to be really sensitive with custom titles. If a serious topic gets a clickbaity custom title, it can easily come off as insensitive, because it seems detached from the severity of what the person is up against.

    An example of how this can be insensitive: Deal with Gaslighting Parents currently has a custom title of “How to Deal with Gaslighting Parents (Know Exactly What to Say or Do)”. Gaslighting is a form of emotional abuse based around making the victim question their reality, so there’s no one exact way to handle it. What’s more, because of the nature of gaslighting and the fact that the readership probably skews younger, a supposed “perfect” response to gaslighting can be easily flipped on its head by an abuser and leave the reader confused, scared, or feeling worse than they did before. The clickbait in general feels inappropriate for a topic about abuse, and telling someone that we know exactly what to say or do is making a promise that we can’t keep.

  • The way you frame people’s actions is really important, for two reasons:
    • It can help the reader avoid black-and-white thinking or demonization, which is really common when you’re dealing with complicated or painful emotions. If someone’s angry at their friend for lying to them, and they read something saying that people only lie for their own gains, they might start viewing their friend as selfish, toxic, or even abusive. If they read multiple reasons why people might lie, like as a form of self-protection or out of anxiety in addition to gaining something from it, they might give their friend some more benefit of the doubt.
    • “The other side” might be reading the article as well. It’s really common for people to frame lying, manipulation, or other “bad” actions as Inherently Evil Things Only Done By Bad People, but sometimes those things were maladaptive but necessary survival techniques (and in general, people don’t like to think of themselves or their loved ones as bad people). We can acknowledge that someone might have acted out of pain or fear and still acknowledge how painful their actions were to somebody else, and that what happened wasn’t okay.

    There’s a really good example of this on the Expert Q&A of Stop Being Manipulative : ”It’s not that we are purposefully manipulative in relationships. These patterns may have worked in your family system, and now you are unconsciously trying to apply the old rules. You have to learn what you’re unconsciously trying to express when you attempt to get what you want any way other than directly asking for it.”

  • “Scripted” empathy can be hit-or-miss depending on how you frame it. Unfortunately I can’t really explain what the difference is, because I don’t know how to verbalize it, but I have noticed that depending on the writer, WRM’s attempts at empathy can feel very detached and clinical; it feels like they’re just saying “yep, it’s tough, and it’s normal to feel like that” without a broader understanding of what the reader is actually experiencing. To be clear, it’s not always like this – I’ve seen some genuinely empathetic WRM content, too. The “clinical empathy” risks being a problem, though, because it can feel very hollow and forced, and that can color someone’s view of the entire page.
    • This probably comes back to content writers not always having direct experience with the topic. When I’ve done work on articles I don’t have direct experience with, I’ve generally found it helpful to “tap into” the closest possible emotion I can, and then write like I’m giving advice to my younger self or a close friend of mine.
  • It really helps to speak to where someone’s currently at sometimes. If someone is confused or hurting, it can be even more painful to try and put a positive spin on it or immediately tell them how to “fix” it, because it doesn’t acknowledge how they feel. Sometimes it’s not necessarily just the advice they need, but the acknowledgement that what they’re going through hurts , that it’s normal and okay, and that it will pass. (This is particularly important with younger readers, who tend to have less life experience, and readers going through really intense or deeply-rooted emotional pain.)
    • At risk of seeming like I’m showing off, I’ve answered some Q&As along this vein, and readers have responded really positively to them, so I’m going to include them as examples.
Q&A on "Stop Liking Your Crush"
Q&A on "Know if a Child is at Risk for Suicide"
(I know this one doesn’t seem to have a strong response. For some extra context: this Q&A currently isn’t visible to logged-out readers since it’s on a health article, and the ratings on questions like these tend to garner a pretty significant amount of Not Helpful votes regardless of what’s said. For every other Q&A on this page, the Helpful to Not Helpful ratio is 14:10, 16:9, 1:5, and 1:3.)

Fewer astrology articles

As someone who views astrology as “fun but pseudoscience,” I find them really hard to take seriously regardless of the content. Subsequently, I’m more likely to judge the site hosting the content as unreliable. And even taking my personal beliefs about astrology out of it, the content in general feels inherently exclusive; it’s often heavily gendered and focuses on romance, which leaves out people who are asexual, aromantic, and/or don’t fit into the gender binary.


Fewer blanket statements

Blanket statements, even when well-meaning, don’t always apply and can be invalidating or alienating. For example:

  • “Your parents love you” can be invalidating or confusing to someone with abusive parents.
    • In cases of more subtle abuse, the person might question whether their parents really are abusive or if they’re just overreacting. This contributes to difficulties with recognizing unhealthy or toxic behavior, setting boundaries, or severing ties.
    • If the person knows for sure that something is wrong – even if they’re not sure their parents are abusive – they might discount some or all of the article. (Saying “Your parents love you” to a younger reader who’s afraid to go home sometimes, or a reader who’s been disowned or explicitly told they’re unwanted, unloved, etc., makes it very clear to the reader that, at best, the writer doesn’t understand that they may genuinely lack familial support.)
    • In general, this kind of statement is really hard for someone who feels dismissed, rejected, or unloved by their parents, even if their parents do love them. (As an example, if you’ve learned not to tell them anything that’s on your mind because they constantly blow it off as “not a big deal,” an article urging you to tell your parents something is going to make you feel alienated.)
  • “Someone who only talks about themselves/their interests and never asks about you is selfish/using you/doesn’t care about you” might be true of neurotypical people, but this can be really common in neurodiversities like ADHD or autism, and it’s usually not a conscious thing. The person might just be excited about something or not realize the other person isn’t interested.
    • From direct experience, too, it feels crappy to have unintentionally been that person and then read something like that. It feels like people are talking about you as though you aren’t right there , but because these guides aren’t aimed at you, you don’t get any advice on what to do instead – and if you don’t know why you do it, taking it at face value and reading other articles (like Stop Being Selfish) just ends up being confusing, because you realize pretty quickly that that’s not right either. And while it’s absolutely possible for disabled people to be toxic or selfish and it’s good to remind yourself to be sensitive to others, hearing that kind of thing over and over again – particularly if you’re young and/or have experienced a lot of social rejection – can really wear down your self-esteem or make you wonder if you’re a bad person.
  • Generally speaking, very broad and sweeping statements or advice fail to factor in nuance (and there’s a lot of that in relationships), and it’s not always helpful – particularly to anyone who isn’t the “average reader.” And there are a lot of those.

    There’s a really unfortunate example of this in action on Survive a Bad Breakup ; the entire article is riddled with this, but I’m looking specifically at list item 10: “Try not to take the breakup personally.” It uses the example of splitting up because you wanted to move when your ex didn’t. That’s a valid example, but there are other situations where this is not good advice: somebody cheated, your ex explicitly told you that something you did is the reason for the breakup, your ex is really good at making you feel guilty for things that aren’t your fault, et cetera. This isn’t acknowledged anywhere , so if someone’s breakup is “bad” because their ex is emotionally abusive, the advice comes off as insensitive at best and invalidating at worst.

    • What’s more, the definition of “bad” is so variable that this kind of broad advice doesn’t help those with a more severe definition of “bad.” The advice in Survive a Bad Breakup might work for someone who’s crying a lot and drunk-texting their ex, but it’s not going to work for someone who’s so shattered by the breakup that they can’t get out of bed and/or are contemplating hurting themselves.

Less use of “we”

This is a personal pet peeve, but I don’t like when articles say stuff like “we’re here to help” or “we know what you’re going through.”

  • First off, to put it bluntly: in my personal experience, anyone who explicitly says “I know what you’re going through” usually doesn’t. Especially in advice articles, where the average reader has no idea who the author is and what their life is like, that’s more likely to evoke a response of, “How do you know?”
  • Second off, if I look at this from the perspective of a reader rather than an editor: I don’t know the content curators on 99% of websites, so use of “we” feels like I’m expected to trust a group of strangers with my emotions. That’s a level of vulnerability that not everyone is comfortable with. Some people look for advice online specifically because they don’t feel safe being that vulnerable with an actual person, and “we” forces them back into that dynamic.

Even from my perspective as an editor and former intern, where I know a significant portion of wikiHow staff, I’ve only felt comfortable asking for personal non-wiki advice in one-to-one settings. I’m not going to walk up to a group of staff members and say, “Y’know, I think I might be in a troubled relationship. Got any advice?”


Using list articles primarily for less-nuanced content

A lot of our content lately is in list format, and there’s some relationship content where that format works really well! There have been some other articles, though, where list format ends up “restricting” the article because it can’t factor in potential variables or alternatives, and it only ends up being helpful if your experience or question fits a narrowly-defined box – like in Survive a Bad Breakup. I find list format on relationship articles to be more helpful when there’s one main “framework” to achieve the main goal, or it’s more of a “checklist” of things to look for (rather than specific things to do or say); when there’s more variability in the reader’s scenario, or what you can or should do, Methods or Parts tends to work better because it allows for much more detail.

Full transparency, I wrote both of these articles – they’re just the first examples I could think of!

  • Know if Someone Is Angry with You lists multiple signs that someone is angry with you. Some may not apply to a given situation, but it’s okay to mentally skip over those, because it’s not really focused on telling the reader what to do – just what to look for.
  • Communicate with Your Spouse when You’re Angry may have multiple ways to achieve the goal, but the framework is generally the same no matter what: communicate calmly, clearly, and respectfully, find mutual understanding, and try to work out a solution. There are situations where this might not work, but those would be more extreme cases, like abusive or dysfunctional relationships – and because this article focuses on communicating while the reader is angry, it’s not as likely to net readers who are there to handle advice on their spouse’s anger (which is more variable, and could range from “normal” anger to outright abuse).

Authoritative voice (don't emulate the audience)

When I’m looking for advice, I want advice from someone speaking relatively seriously and authoritatively, because I’m more likely to trust someone who sounds like they know what they’re talking about. Examples of what to say also tend to work better for me if they’re more serious, because they’re easier to adapt to who I’m talking to. Using emojis or attempting to emulate “generational” texting trends, like in this diff , is impossible to take seriously, because it’s incredibly difficult to accurately capture the “voice” of your audience. Done poorly, something like that is worryingly likely to land us on something like r/fellowkids.

Memes, emojis, and trends can quickly become outdated, too, or develop meanings or connotations that they didn’t initially have. And these can be pretty serious shifts – Pepe the Frog was adopted by alt-right groups and white supremacists in less than a year. That’s a really extreme example, of course, but we don’t know what will gain hidden meanings, and it’d be pretty embarrassing to discover that a formerly-innocent emoji now has some kind of sexual connotation!

And this is subjective, but personally speaking, this is the kind of thing that would make me feel like my question wasn’t being taken seriously, or like the author doesn’t remember there’s a person asking the question. If I was a younger reader who came across Keep a Conversation Going with Your Crush, I wouldn’t feel able to use more than one or two of the suggestions, because none of them sound like anything I would have said and they’re not things I would’ve been able to adapt. Nor does it really answer how to keep the conversation going , which is a genuine issue for me to this day (if I don’t know how to respond to something, I can falter or go silent, and the article doesn’t address what to do after opening the conversation or if you get a lukewarm response). It would’ve just felt like a list of icebreakers compiled into an article that’s overly focused on sounding “relatable,” not actual relevant advice.


Some of my feedback here might seem a bit harsh or critical – I promise I don’t intend it that way! This is me viewing this through the lens of a reader, and what I would want to see on any source if I was looking for relationship advice, so I want to be as thorough as possible. And I’m happy to elaborate on any points if need be, or find further examples:slight_smile:

I have some minor thoughts related to the visual aspect of a separate section for relationships, too, but this post is long enough, and for something like that, I’d need to make wireframes or mockups to show what I mean anyway!

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