I know that a lot of people are feeling restless and cooped up during the lockdown, and I thought that in order to possibly help alleviate that, and to help editors contribute to wikiHow, that I could revive the Bold Edit Contest .

The goal of the contest would be that a contributor basically picks one (or more) article(s) that are in Quality Review, and then edits them to get them fully promoted. I was originally planning on having editors vote for which article they think was the best, but I thought that this might make some people feel bad, and it might hurt the collaborative spirit of a wiki, so I came up with a different idea. In this contest, there would be no winners or losers. Instead, every article that got promoted to fully published status would be listed in the “Hall of Fame”, and the contestants can put their submission up and say why they are proud of their work, and what they learned (either about wikiHow, or the topic the article was about) while improving the article. Additionally, other users can respond to the submissions and say why they like the improvement that the user did, and what they learned from the article. The initial submissions and responses would occur on the forums, and latter, all of the submissions would be moved to the Hall of Fame on a wikiHow: page. This should help reduce the amount of edits that would need to be patrolled.

The submission deadline would be something like June 30th, or a similar date, and after that, the articles and comments in the “Hall of Fame” would be enshrined on the page and archived on a page in the wikiHow: namespace so that everybody could be proud of and remember their achievement.

I thought that this somewhat different approach at the contest would highlight everybody’s contributions, and it would prevent a competitive atmosphere from forming that might be damaging to the community. Also, it would help people divert their energy into something productive, and it would help some articles get promoted. It would basically be like the community achievements of the week, but it would be community run, and users would be able to respond to individual article submissions.

Additionally, I think that some templates could be created/edited. I came across {{ Bold Edit Award }}, which is not used on any page, and I think could be edited to say something like “I participated in the bold edit contest”. This could be added to participants user pages after the contest.

Also, I thought that discussion pages could perhaps have a template added to them that explains that the article was improved via the Bold Edit Contest. Discussion pages can only be seen by logged in contributors, so I think that this will make the contest more fun without affecting readers to much. Although this is just an idea, and is not required in order to have the contest.

I think that this is a good idea because everyone can participate, have fun, and have a good time. Also, even though anybody can edit articles in quality review at any time, this contest might help increase the amount of articles that are edited.

Since I do want to create some templates, and use discussion pages in the project, I wanted to see what everyone thought of my idea first before I proceeded with the contest. I also wanted to see if anybody had any suggestions or ideas in regards to the contest.

I would definitely participate! This sounds like a great idea.

I’m not 100% opposed, but my main concern is that it might lead to a lot of pressure to promote articles that aren’t actually ready for promotion just so people can try to show progress or “win” (even though there’s no real winners or losers in this, the ultimate goal for people who do bold edits on demoted articles tends to be getting the article promoted). It’s happened historically with projects in the past, and people might feel even more pressured to get their article promoted if this is framed as a contest. There would need to be a way of making extremely  clear that promotion doesn’t have to be the end-goal and discouraging people from messaging boosters excessively about promotion.

One thing that could help with this is to set the contest to run until June 30th will give users enough time to not feel pressured to rush.

Also, I was originally planning on recommending that users contact the Article Review Team for review, but, this can be made mandatory, and on the contest page and the forum post announcing the contest, we could put something like the following sentence:

“When you believe that you have improved the article to wikiHow standards, please message the Article Review Team asking for a review. Please be patient when waiting for a review.”

This should help reduce or even eliminate the amount of users messaging boosters. Instead, boosters can handle the requests at their own pace. When writing the instructions, I’ll make it clear not to message boosters excessively regarding promotion. And, if somebody does message a booster excessively despite the warnings, then they can be “disqualified”, which would basically mean that they will not be added to the Hall of Fame. I believe that warning people that they will be disqualified should be enough to make them stop if they do not stop after previous warnings.

Additionally, I think that it’s fair to modify the project goals to simply be to improve the article, instead of getting it fully promoted. That way, even if someone is not able to get their article fully promoted, they would still be able to participate. I could make it clear in the instructions that full promotion is not required to participate. I think that this would help reduce the pressure.

This sounds like a good idea, though you have a good point @Galactic-Radiance .

^ +1

I’d love to join! Sounds fun.:slight_smile:

I’d like to join! UwU

I think this could have a nice turnout. I do understand the point about people wanting their edits to get the articles promoted, but if it could be specified that promotion isn’t mandatory or something similar, I think this could be good! I personally wouldn’t mind if people left requests on my talk page to review articles (and people do quite frequently), but I’m sure it could be the other way for other boosters, so I second the idea to make it mandatory to leave the link on the Article Review Team page rather than contacting a booster to review the article if/once they feel that it’s ready for review. I’ll probably be checking the page frequently if we go forward with this. Anyway, I think this could be fun - there’s an article I’ve been meaning to edit for a while, and now that I have the time to do so, it could be fun doing it for this contest.

If I counted the votes right, and I didn’t make a calculation error, then it looks like there is consensus to move forward with this contest with the changes described in my previous reply.

Additionally, I wanted to let everybody know that I think this “contest” is a good way to see how this idea works. If it is successful, then perhaps other similar contests could be done in the future to help reduce backlogs. If it fails, then the contest can always be ended early, and we will probably learn something from it that we can use in the future.

I did want to tag @Galactic-Radiance , because I don’t know whether or not you saw my reply to your concerns, so I wanted to let you know just in case you missed it, and wanted to reply.

If nobody has any further concerns with the contest, then I’ll plan to start it on Sunday. If anybody has any concerns with the contest, then please comment below.

Great! Thanks for the idea and for coordinating @R2_d2000 :) 

Thanks for the ping, R2 - that’s fair, and I support the idea of this if it’s clear that people shouldn’t be pushing for promotion. Might even participate if I stop getting distracted by every other article that I think should be worked on!

Google form could be helpful or some other type of form software.

+1 here.  Editcountitis is NOT a disease we want to start here. Lots of bad “side effects” to avoid.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editcountitis

@Editor-Jr , where do you think that it would be useful to use Google forms? I was just planning on using the forum comments to submit articles and to post feedback.

@Loiswade42 , the proposal was modified in response to this comment. You can refer to the reply below it. Do you think that the changes will help reduce the chance of this issue happening to an acceptable level? Also, if this becomes a problem, then the contest can always be canceled.

@R2_d2000

I read your message wrong ignore me.

After waiting a while and counting all of the votes, it still appears that there is consensus to start the contest. I’ve gone ahead and started the forum thread here . Thank you everyone for your input and thoughts.