As most of you know, I have recently resigned from page designing. I know some very specific forum users will disagree, but just hear me out. I think that we should stop page designing (again, get your mouse away from the back button and listen). If users really want their page designed, read the articles themselves. Designing pages is fairly simple, and you don’t need someone to do it for you when it just takes two clicks to get to an article to learn how to do it yourself. I know I was a page designer, but I once read here on the forums (I think it was BR, but i’m not sure) that for 1-3 months, a user will get into a phase where all they want to do is design their and other people’s pages. Then they will realize how silly they have been and do something about it. So, can users just learn how to do it themselves? I will gladly do a page designing tutorial on the forums. So, thoughts?
I think you have a good point, I feel it’s good to have people who can do page designing for people but they just need to do editing as well to keep it even.
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I defenitly see your point.
I think it’s a really great point, but I will miss being a Page Designer, although I am not against it. <3
I don’t think it should be outright outlawed, just controlled so it’s not excessive.
^ I agree. I don’t think that page designing should be banned or anything, but it definitely needs to be controlled. There’s a Quality Quest that might help out with that, actually. But I 100% agree that users should learn how to page design themselves. It’s like that old quote, “If you give a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he’ll eat for a lifetime”. Isabelle Zita made a thread awhile back about page designing: http://forums.wikihow.com/discussion/4131/designing-pages
so you could send users there if they want to learn how to page design. I think that having a designed userpage is fine, since it’s a way to express yourself and make your page a bit less bland. However, people need to remember: 1. Page designing is not the point of wikiHow. WikiWork should always come first. 2. You don’t need to change your page design every day. Pick a design that you love and stick with it (I’ve had the same design for 2 years). 3. Avoid neon colours. Please, please, please with a cherry on top. I am blinded by neon pages, and I’m not the only one. You need to be able to read the words on your talkpage, so neon words over a neon background are not only hard to see, but rather annoying. 4. You don’t need to go crazy. You don’t need a huge border, bright background, and crazy font. Less is more. 5. Don’t constantly send messages back and forth regarding your design. Take a moment and think of everything you want, then post it. Sending multiple little messages saying “I want a blue background”, “oh, and a pink border”, “can my border be dotted?”, etc. clogs up RC. 6. Don’t spam. If you’re a page designer, people will come to you. You don’t need to approach every new user and ask them if they want their page designed.
Not everyone knows page design and I am one of them. Long ago a page designer created a lovely page in lavender. I don’t use it much as my tastes have changed. I’d hate to see this volunteer service ended, but I do believe a person should request page design assistance. Perhaps wikiHow could set up a page to list available page designers and if someone needed help they could ask. MA
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@Mash317
They have exactly that!
I absolutely hate it when I get message like this: “can u plz desin my tlk pg? ur so gud at it” It makes me want to punch my computer. I would appreciate it if people actually tried designing, and if they were have trouble, come and ask me.
I think this is the key.
@CiciLovesKatniss
The Page Designing page is not for showing page designers, it is to ask for a design.
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I think talk page designing should be forbidden altogether.
^ you’re entitled to your opinion but I think you’re out voted on that one.
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@Livelifenails
- Yeah.
Thanks <3
No Duh. I’d gladly jump on that bandwagon. I talked to someone, about proposing a policy about it, but said I’d have to get community approvel. Plus, it’s a wiki, so you can’t stop it all together.
June Days
I believe that each user should be responsible for his/her own user and talk pages. I would gladly support the proposal of a ban on designing other peoples’ pages.
Thing is though, some people are not good with computers and just can’t do a page design like me. We should have page designers but in moderation and not only doing page design.
But page designing sidetracks us from the goal. If anything, it would be fine to have a normal page.
June Days
If we let people design their own pages, it’s likely they’ll get overwhelmed at the sight of HTML code and start to ask for help all over again.
We’re a how to manual. They’d have to have a room-temperature IQ not to be able to figure it out after reading the articles pertaining to it.